"I feel bad about that now" - Paul Wall reacts to Juelz Santana saying he caused his addiction by introducing him to lean

Rapper Paul Wall was a recent guest on The Art of Dialogue podcast, where he addressed Juelz Santana’s claims.

Earlier in January 2025, when Santana appeared on the podcast, he said Wall introduced him to lean. As seen in the video, Santana was asked what led him to get hooked on lean, to which he said:

“My man, Paul Wall, a couple of guys from Houston.”

Meanwhile, responding to Juelz Santana’s claims, Wall said on the latest episode:

“I feel bad about that now. You know, of course, you know what I'm saying?”

He added:

“But yeah, I did, man. But I mean, you know, at the time, you know what I'm saying? We all drink, you know, we all drinking. And you look at people that drank and people that drank, you know, they not crackheads. We're not breaking in people's houses, selling your mama TV, pawning it to buy drink.”

Paul Wall mentioned that back in those days, buying drinks wasn’t an expensive affair. He explained that many long-term addicts had health problems, like being overweight. This happened not from drinking lean, but also from the lifestyle that came with it, like not exercising, eating unhealthy food, and drinking too much soda and sugar.

Wall said these issues were not always directly from lean itself but were connected to it, and they could be managed to some extent.

Paul Wall shares his thoughts about how the times have changed

Paul Wall said once, when they were drinking it, Juelz Santana asked what it was. Wall explained what it was, and intrigued by it since he had heard of it, he wanted to try it.

The next time Wall saw him, he already had a bottle with him. He said:

“You never know how it's going to affect different people or, you know what I'm saying? How people are going to you know immerse their selves in it. You know, some people it is harder for others. It leads to other things, you know, the life.”

He continued:

“It definitely affects your lifestyle change and with a lot of times with it, you know, the sipping drink leads to popping pills and the pills is what really f*cks you up.”

Paul Wall said he never thought people could abuse cough syrup. He explained that when people said someone died from syrup, it usually wasn’t true. According to him, those deaths were caused by overdoses or other drugs in their system, not the syrup itself.

Wall gave examples, saying that if someone took fentanyl while drinking syrup, it was the fentanyl that killed them, not the syrup. Similarly, if someone had syrup in their system but died in a car accident, the accident was the real cause, not the syrup.

Sharing his views on the present-day situation, Wall said:

“My views and feelings on sipping syrup, sipping drink, you know, with the era of my era of sipping drink, you know, the era today, I don't consider this like my era of sipping. Do I sip drink? On rare occasions, I still do.”

He said that times have changed, and so have the ways in which these drinks are made. According to Paul Wall, the tastes of these drinks have also changed, and they make a person feel different.

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