Pluribus star Rhea Seehorn opens up about her character’s relationship with Zosia

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When Pluribus dropped its second-to-last episode, viewers immediately focused on that one moment they had been eager to see: the silent, poignant kiss between Carol and Zosia. Viewers could feel that something more was at play since Zosia, who is a representative of the hive-mind called The Others, was introduced as Carol’s companion. The internet promptly christened the match as Stursia and the response was nothing short of joy.

Rhea Seehorn, who is the series lead, has since expressed her opinion regarding that relationship. According to her, it is not merely a romantic scene. It is a story of emotional vulnerability in a world where authentic human connection is becoming rare. Carol is extremely independent, yet she is also tremendously lonely, and Zosia becomes a reflection of that contradiction.

Seehorn has made it very explicit that she does not view Stursia as a typical will-they-won’t-they plot. What is interesting about it is the discomfort underneath the tenderness. Zosia might be real, but she belongs to a group that has swallowed the majority of humanity. That poses disturbing questions about choice, intimacy, and whether true love is possible when manipulation is part of the system.

It is precisely that combination of comfort and discomfort that makes Stursia work - and why it is one of the most discussed emotionally complicated relationships on Apple TV’s Pluribus at the moment.


Why Carol needed Zosia in Pluribus

If Carol Sturka simply came off as the grumpy novelist with a no-nonsense attitude at the beginning of Pluribus, then wait till you watch Pluribus Episode 8, for there are clearly more complex things at play. As Carol kisses Zosia, there’s more than just sci-fi or romantically tempting about it; it's an act of sheer loneliness at its core.

As Rhea Seehorn translated in her interview with Deadline, this happened as a consequence of Carol’s breakdown following her enforced isolation. Abandoned in reality, Carol aims not just for survival, but for what she now knows she needs: to feel acknowledged, understood, even alive. Zosia counts, not because she’s beautiful, but because she understands Carol in ways that no one else does.

Pluribus star Rhea Seehorn told Deadline:

“I assumed this [Zosia and Carol’s relationship] must be a complication because they’ve sent her to her to be enticing and attractive. But then we started going down this road of Carol being utterly broken by the isolation she’s put through, as well as the existential threat that this could be your life for the rest of your life; never speaking to anyone again until you just die on your couch alone, and it’s horrific and jarring to say the least. So she’s in this very fragile and vulnerable place.”

Seehorn further added,

“She remembers what was great about it, and comes away, realizes, this is manipulative. This is all part of a ploy, but at the same time, it is an act of kindness. It was a loving thing to do. Are those two things mutually exclusive? And these larger, rippling questions of — I think she’s starting to feel like she’s going a little crazy — ‘How are you defining what real love is?’ And if there is nobody that loves her or wants to be around her anymore in the way that she used to define love, then can this be real love?....She’s playing a lot of chess in her head, or maybe weighing things out, but she’s definitely tipping the scales on purpose to support a delusion that is a salve for how broken she is.”

This is why the moment in Pluribus is so effective. It goes against Carol’s conviction that the only thing left is survival. This is more than mere shipping. This is an act of connection that is weak and potentially dangerous. It is what it is because there is no other connection left in this world. This is what Seehorn wants the audience to notice. This isn’t about romance. It is about the moment of someone's desperation for connection in a world that has lost what makes human relationships messy and real.


Ambiguity, agency, and why this isn’t a typical love story

Rhea Seehorn and the Pluribus team are keeping Carol and Zosia’s relationship ambiguous on purpose. Of course, there’s the temptation to call it a romantic kiss, but Seehorn says it’s much trickier than that. The moment falls between manipulation, genuine desire, emotional survival, and a quiet twist on storytelling tropes you may have grown too familiar with.

A big part of that ambiguity comes from the question: who, really initiates the kiss, and why? Is it a calculated move of the hive-mind, a more authentic emotion from Zosia as she begins to act independently, or something in between? The Apple TV series would rather have you sit with it, rather than hurtling toward an answer.

Seehorn also points out how much trust and care went into filming the scene with Karolina Wydra. Wydra brings layers of humor, hesitation, vulnerability, and unease to her character Zosia in Pluribus. What could have been a simple sci-fi romance moment instead becomes something more raw: a glimpse into the need for connection, even when its meaning isn't fully clear.


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Edited by Sohini Biswas